Word!

25 Mar

Well it’s getting to be that time again… so…

Can anybody please tell me why God doesn’t speak to anyone anymore with any more instructions as to what we should do as a people here on Earth? No one has written anything authored by God in over a thousand years… except perhaps for Joseph Smith who was visited by Moroni, an angel who helped him discover the invisible plates of New York State? So why won’t God communicate with us now that we can all hear and record his voice and words so as not to mistake his message?

All of our scripture consists of what someone said they heard from God when no one else was around, and most everyone else was illiterate. Then it was written down over centuries by others who said they remembered or heard what was told to them, and then we know that it was further edited and reworded and altered over hundreds of years more before printing, and thus some tangible and corroborative proof of its existence as a text, was even invented.

After that labyrinthine process, how can anyone call whatever book they believe in, the indisputable “word” or “words” of God, a supposedly infallible and supreme being of intelligence and love? The entire process sounds no more intelligent then what must now go on in the editorial rooms of Fox News…

What kind of way is that for a supreme being to show off his intelligence, infallibility and supremeness?

To have faith is one thing…but to have faith in a supreme being who had no more sense or regard for his audience than say, a Rupert Murdoch does now, isn’t very inspiring of either faith or god. Is it?

God could have delivered an actual book couldn’t he? And updated with another revised edition each year or so like even the phone company or Sears does, could he not? And doing so before books were even invented would have been really awe and faith inspiring… don’t you think?

But we have faith that he decided to avoid mass communication with all of the sophisticated civilizations throughout time and rather enjoyed whispering his words of instruction and obedience to the outlying, marginal and unlettered people of the world so as to watch the spread of his message slowly throughout the convoluted march of time, altercation and war until…when?…Hell freezes over?

Common God! At the risk of blaspheming, If you’re out there, I have faith that you can do better. We need some new words please. Ones that none of us can miss, mistake or misinterpret. And we need them now… Word!

39 Responses to “Word!”

  1. makagutu March 25, 2015 at 6:23 am #

    God doesn’t want to use mass media, what of password theft? You have to understand there are problems with our modes of communication. Am waiting for revised stone tables

  2. mbtrevino March 25, 2015 at 11:45 am #

    Check your ‘in-box’…

  3. avwalters March 25, 2015 at 2:48 pm #

    You need to listen more closely. Unfortunately, like any parent or guiding institution, you hear more from them when you’re not behaving. So, listen to the poisoned rivers, the dying and endangered species. Listen to the strange howls of an unusually bitter winter wind, or the sighs brought by brutal summer heat. Hear the message of the beached whales, the dead and dying sea lions on California beaches or the deafening crashes of the glaciers, calving into the seas. No, it’s not exactly like an instruction manual, but the message is clear. We’re just not listening, because money is in the way.

  4. bibleis4me March 25, 2015 at 3:50 pm #

    God said His word is enough. You can always learn something new if you study harder. All the answers you need are somewhere in the Bible. He doesn’t want to spoon-feed us everything or we would be pretty helpless.

    • gpicone March 26, 2015 at 12:01 pm #

      Please tell me how God wrote the Bible? And why he only made it available to less than 1 third of the world’s people? Thanks

      • makagutu March 26, 2015 at 12:06 pm #

        I am afraid you may wait for such a long time for an answer. What however that comments reminds me of is a post I wrote a few days ago. The fundamentalist does not need to read any other book for all the answers are in his/ her holy book

      • bibleis4me March 26, 2015 at 5:35 pm #

        In older days, God talked to people. He inspired people to write. And He expects us to love Him enough to share His book. He gave us the Bible and told us to “spread the good news”. If only 1/3 of the world’s people has it that’s our fault.

  5. drshyamalavatsa March 26, 2015 at 12:27 pm #

    God has probably figured He’s done enough talking after seeing all the religions and holy books He has unwittingly created, and the destruction they are causing to this day. Each time He chose to spread His message by whispering it to someone in secret, it turned into a game of Chinese whispers. He most likely told everybody the same things, but see, we now have groups of marauders speaking with swords and guns on His behalf, saying only they are privy to His utterances. Folks say God is wise, so maybe He reckons staying silent is a wise thing to do.

    • gpicone March 27, 2015 at 4:10 pm #

      Don’t we need inspiration to write more now? Why did he stop talking to people? Especially when there are so many more people to talk to now? Don’t you ever wonder why God won’t talk anymore?

      • patricklongchen March 28, 2015 at 12:33 am #

        God has in my opinion, but it is the heartless people who claim to know God that have defiled our connection with Him.

      • drshyamalavatsa March 31, 2015 at 10:22 am #

        To me, God speaking as God is in the realm of mythology. God appearing as an avatar, incarnated as a man or woman, can obviously use speech to communicate. But if He did come to earth as an avatar would I believe He is God? How would I distinguish Him from all the cult-starters and other claimants to the position? Have you seen the movie ‘Oh God’ starring George Burns as God in the 80s? Or, more recently, Morgan Freeman as God in ‘Bruce Almighty’? If either of them approached me and introduced themselves as God, I would be highly sceptical.

        On another level, God – to me – is not a being. ‘He’ is the power that runs the universe. ‘He’ is energy. ‘He’ is each person’s soul. We have created an anthropomorphic image of God because it is easier to pray to Him then, than to a Higgs Boson. And when we pray, we connect with our inner selves, our own souls, i.e. with God. So God doesn’t need to talk at all. As George Burns says at the end of ‘Oh God’ (and I’ve never forgotten this line), “You talk. I’ll listen.”

  6. Outlier Babe March 27, 2015 at 9:43 pm #

    Whatever your beliefs, I found this unnecessarily disrespectful of those who believe the Bible is the word of God. And the becoming-common-among-atheists choice to lowercase a proper name, even of a being you consider mythical, I find childish. (Do atheists lowercase the name Zeus? Or the name Allah, just another name for God? Nope.)

    Not saying you have no valid points–you do–but why not make them without being so disrespectful?

    • makagutu March 30, 2015 at 5:07 am #

      Zeus is a proper name, Allah is a proper name, YHWH is a proper name, god isn’t a proper name. And I have reread the post and see nowhere he has used lower case in referring to your particular myth unless you were attempting satire, in which case, I think you have done badly.

      • Outlier Babe March 30, 2015 at 3:25 pm #

        Got it: The names of the supreme “mythical” beings of all cultures except the English-speaking Christian one are to be capitalized.

        You have redefined grammar rules so that the latter is no longer a proper noun, even when it appears used as one.

        “God” is to now mean the same as:
        a god, the god, some gods, one god, other gods, many gods.

        I believe if you check with the writer of this blog, you will find that his original post lacked a capital G or two, and that this was revised. However, if I am mistaken, I owe him a HUGE apology on that front.

      • makagutu March 30, 2015 at 3:32 pm #

        You need a few lessons mate.
        Zeus was Greek god. Yhwh is the god of Jews and Christians. God is a generic name for that class of beings that exist in the minds of believers and are said to do different things depending on the geography of the believer.
        And I checked with the host and in his reply he did say if he didn’t capitalise god, it was a mistake of proof reading. Did you read that too?
        When did god become a proper noun?

      • Outlier Babe March 30, 2015 at 3:56 pm #

        This is a profit-less discussion, mate. My last response on this topic. You need a few English lessons. Yahweh (modern English is written with vowels–ancient Hebrew sometimes used tiny markings to indicate the presence of these, sometimes did not, but it did not indicate WHICH vowels were intended) is a name for the God indicated by the Old Testament. As is Allah, used by Moslems/Muslims. As is God, used by Christians. A god is the generic.

        I will not spend the rest of my day researching the etymology of the different names for God and the history of the capitalization–most likely related to the history of capitalization of English words in printing, in general–but if you wish to do so, I suggest you begin here.

  7. patricklongchen March 28, 2015 at 12:31 am #

    I found a book called the Gospel of God’s True Love aka the Padgett Messages. You really should read it; it has shattered my beliefs on the bible.

    The bible does not include what Jesus really taught.

  8. Black3Actual March 28, 2015 at 3:57 am #

    I have to wonder whether or not you have ever read the Scriptures? In the Old Testament, the prophets lament — on behalf of the people — that God did not speak to them anymore. It was because Israel had turned away from god — not the other way around.

    If you ever get serious about wanting to know God, then do as His word says and seek Him — sincerely! The more you do, the more you will find God still lives: He lives in the heart of every believer, and I — for one — hear His voice quite often. And once you get to know Him — really know Him — you can tell His voice from your own. Trust me on this one 🙂

    • gpicone March 29, 2015 at 10:11 pm #

      So God does not speak out loud to the world any more because Israel has turned away from him? Haven’t they turned back? If not then why do we support Israel so much? And do you believe in a god that holds grudges? Did you read the scriptures as written in God’s language? If not, how would you know what were the actual and original “words” as spoken by God? Wouldn’t it be better if God actively (rather than dormantly) lived in the hearts of every unbeliever and if his believers were a little less condescending?

      • Black3Actual March 29, 2015 at 11:09 pm #

        gpicone,

        You are over-simplifying the issue. that is fallacious reasoning 🙂

        Israel hs been blinded by Christ, for the sake of the Gentiles. The Gentiles (i.e. Christians) are under the New Covenant. Under the New Covenant, we do not need a Priest to intercede for us, which is why God spoke through the prophets. We can speak directly to God, and He speaks directly to the believer.

        Do I read the Scriptures in Hebrew and GreeK? Yes, as best I can. I read an Interlinear Bible and I take the time to research the original language. PLUS, I have studied Hebrew poetry and culture — both of which are necessary for a fuller understanding of Scripture. HOWEVER, none of this prevents us from getting the basics of God’s plan from any faithful translation of God’s word.

        On top of this, you have to allow for the individual prophet. God spoke through them, but He did not use them as dictation machines. They have individual personalities and this shows through in the way they tell us God’s word.

        Now, as to the notion of God living in the heart of the unbeliever. This belies a lack of understanding. God has told us we are saved by faith. Faith is a matter of free will. If God did as you suggest, faith would not be possible. Do you have ‘faith’ in gravity? No! That is because you ‘know’ gravity exists, so you do not need to have faith in it, you KNOW it. Therefore, if God did as you seem to desire, we would never be able to come into His presence and all of us would be lost.

        In addition to this, whether you know it or not, you are asking God to negate free will. If He did this, He would not be a just God and, therefore, not God at all.

        I hope this helps.

    • makagutu March 30, 2015 at 5:16 am #

      God has told us we are saved by faith. Faith is a matter of free will.

      Am confused here a little bit. Are men saved by faith or by deed?
      Are you suggesting in your response to the host, that if your god was to make himself more familiar, people wouldn’t believe?

      • Black3Actual March 30, 2015 at 12:03 pm #

        Thank you for asking this question, and for giving me a chance to make myself more clear. 🙂

        If you accept Scripture as the Word of God, then we must accept that men are saved by faith and faith alone. I accept the Bible as the Word of God, so I accept God’s assertion that we are saved ONLY by faith.

        Now, as to whether or not men would believe if God made Himself more known:

        Again, if we are to believe Scripture, then God walked with Adam in the garden. How much more known can God be than to walk with us? The same applies to Satan: how much more known can God be than to place you at the head of His created beings? Yet, even though both had full knowledge of God, both rebelled.

        My point is this: God does speak to us. What is in our hearts determines whether or not we hear His voice and, even when we do, we will still rebel. This is at the heart of the issue: free will. If God does not allow us free will, then He is not a just God. At the same time, if God is not sovereign, He is not God. It is a paradox, but it is not a contradiction: both can and — according to God’s word — do exist. They work together — God’s sovereignty and our free will. But God’s will prevails. This is one of the mysteries of God that Scripture teaches us.

        Part of God’s plan involves faith. I do not claim to understand exactly how it works, and that is part of having faith. Faith produces trust in and reliance on God. But we do not have faith or trust in things we know. We do not see gravity as a ruling force but a thing we can harness, manipulate and use to our will. As it is, too many of us try to do this with God now. I can only imagine how much worse it would be if God had not made things the way He did: so that we can choose to either see and obey Him or reject Him. This way, we determine our own destinies without having any control over God or breach in God’s sovereignty.

        So, when we cry to God about how WE think He should have done things, we are telling God we think we should be in His place. We may not realize it, but this is what we are doing. It is rebellion. I am a sinner, and I will always fall short of the mark, but I recognize God as Sovereign of the entire universe — myself included. So I try to be obedient. This does not save me, but then, it is not a work, but a product of my faith. Obedience is the result of faith.

        I hope this helps. If not, then the fault is all mine and I apologize more my failing in explaining God’s word.

      • makagutu March 30, 2015 at 12:23 pm #

        Thanks for the attempt, unfortunately it falls short, way too short in the manner of explanation.
        First, I think it is James? where the author says we are saved by deeds. It is Paul who says we are saved by faith. So who to follow?
        On freewill. To argue that god gives people freewill so they can have faith or not makes no sense. Did Judas have freewill? And let us pretend that the hero of the new testament was a real fellow, would he still have been crucified without Judas?
        If you accept that Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and bad, their eating of the fruit cannot by any justice be called disobedience. That would be stretching lies longer than is necessary

      • Black3Actual March 30, 2015 at 1:17 pm #

        I am sorry, but NOWHERE does the Bible say we are saved by deeds! What James says is that faith without deeds is dead. In other words, faith will yield deeds. This is what the Bible means when it says a good tree will bear good fruit. The fruit is our deeds, but we are NOT saved by deeds. No one can ever save themselves, and that is what all deeds-based forms of salvation represent: man’s authority over God. It is rebellion.

        As for your comments about the paradox of free will and God’s Sovereignty: it is a paradox, but that does not mean it cannot be resolved. I can think of at least one way to explain it, and logic tells us that if there is one way, there is likely many more. To say it is impossible is to limit God.

        Finally, as to the notion that you cannot have disobedience without a knowledge of good and bad: that is a false assertion. A child can be innocent (no awareness of good/bad or right/wrong, yet they can still understand they are disobeying their parents.

        I think the problem here is that you have eyes, yet you do not see; you have ears, yet you do not hear. 😦

      • makagutu March 30, 2015 at 1:31 pm #

        Sorry my mistake. I had to dust my bible just to confirm and yes James does hold that faith is very important.
        As for your comment about god and sovereignty and rebellion, I hope it isn’t lost on you that am irreligious.
        Would the father of a child knowing the child has no awareness of good and bad be justified in punishing the child? Why?

      • Black3Actual March 30, 2015 at 1:39 pm #

        No, a parent would not be just in punishing a child who has no understanding of right/wrong, but this does not mean that parent is just not to teach right/wrong.

        HOWEVER, Romans tells us that God has placed His natural law in the heart of ALL people. This is so that no one can claim ignorance.

        And yes, I caught on to the fact that you are irreligious. 🙂

      • makagutu March 30, 2015 at 1:54 pm #

        So you realize quoting the bible as evidence is like quoting Harry Potter as evidence for witches.
        So you would consider cursing the earth, sending A &E out of the garden teaching?

      • Black3Actual March 30, 2015 at 2:27 pm #

        Actually, no. In fact, the Bible is proof of God’s existence. No one has ever been able to prophecy the future…except God’s prophets. God even told us that He gives prophecy so we will know He is God.

        What I reject is anyone who rejects the possibility that the Bible is exactly what it claims to be. Many have tried, but the Bible has NEVER been disproven on any point. yes, people have claimed they have done so, but all those claims have been proven fallacious. At the same time, the Bible has lead archeologists and even geologists to discoveries that were ONLY mentioned in Scripture. In fact, if it did not claim to be the Word of God, we would consider the Bible to be the best history book we have on antiquity.

        So, no, I do not accept your assertion because it is flawed in its very nature.

      • makagutu March 30, 2015 at 2:44 pm #

        I have thought of the most polite way to say this, but I can’t. So I will leave you to your craziness. It’s a mark of insanity for one to believe balaam talked with a donkey and woodpeckers lived in a wooden boat for a year and after the long sojourn kangaroos hopped back to Australia. As for prophecies fulfilled, tell me one. While at it, you have to show how what you have described as prophecy and its fulfillment relate.

      • Black3Actual March 30, 2015 at 3:36 pm #

        The prophecies foretelling Christ are a series that have come true, but you will deny them because you are lost.

        At this point, further discussion with you would be pearls before swine, so I will shake the dust from my feet and leave you to your own will. I pray God will have mercy on you and open your eyes. Peace to you.

      • makagutu March 30, 2015 at 3:45 pm #

        You are so quick to jump to conclusions about what I will or will not do. I asked a simple question of you and your answer is you are going to pray. How unreasonable does it get?

      • makagutu March 30, 2015 at 1:36 pm #

        I think I just responded to the bit about James and faith? Must you beat an already dead horse?

      • Black3Actual March 30, 2015 at 1:40 pm #

        I apologize, but I posted that link before I realized you had responded. My system had not refreshed, so I did not see the reply indicator. If I had, I would not have posted the link.

      • makagutu March 30, 2015 at 1:54 pm #

        Apology accepted.

  9. gpicone March 29, 2015 at 9:57 pm #

    I’m confused. Who did this? and where? Even God says in his first commandment that thou shalt have no other gods before him, implying that other gods do exist or perhaps that we might think they do, but anyway, giving God the name, God, is kind of redundant and many religious people do have a name for God that is not “God”…even the word “Allah” means “the God” so that is kind of the same thing, whereas Zeus is actually the name of one of the many Greek gods from their ancient mythology. In any case I certainly meant no disrespect and have failed to find where I failed to capitalize the name. If I mistakenly did it once, then your argument is more about my inability to properly edit and proof read rather than my showing disrespect to an entire group of religious people, many of whom I would argue need to lighten up a bit, and know just as much about being disrespectful as they know about being disrespected.

    • gpicone March 30, 2015 at 2:35 am #

      “Do you have ‘faith’ in gravity? No! That is because you ‘know’ gravity exists, so you do not need to have faith in it, you KNOW it. Therefore, if God did as you seem to desire, we would never be able to come into His presence and all of us would be lost.”Thanks for the example of Fallacious reasoning. 🙂 All arguments are possible as long as we have faith in our arguments. When we meet in the afterlife I hope we can continue the discussion there. Of course if you are correct and only you get there then it will be a win-win for you, so no worries 🙂 -Peace.

  10. emmylgant March 29, 2015 at 10:32 pm #

    Jeepers! See what you started?

    • gpicone March 30, 2015 at 2:42 am #

      I Know! Don’t you just love religion? Happy Easter! I wonder if Jesus (capital J) celebrates it.

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