Any Given Sunday?

13 Mar

Here’s a sobering fact for the NRA and gun advocates everywhere.

According to the National Institute of Mental Health and the most recent government data available, 19% of all U.S. adults have suffered from a mental illness in the past year. In fact, Research on mental health and disease patterns shows that mental disorders are common throughout the United States, affecting tens of millions of people each year, and that, overall, only about half of those affected receive treatment.

So with some 300 million guns of various kind and caliber, distributed throughout the populace of a country with tens of millions of adults suffering from various kinds of mental illnesses…is this not a certain recipe for disaster? And is it any wonder why so many horrible tragedies involving guns, occur each and every year within our country’s borders?

So, is asking for a little more control, regulation and oversight over weapons that are designed to either kill humans, along with other weapons that are mostly only used in the killing of humans, really all that difficult to understand and grasp…especially when our laws all but guarantee the potential for tens of millions of deadly weapons to be in the hands of tens of millions of mentally ill adults on any given day?!

And how can it not be indicative of an illness, mental… to think otherwise?

6 Responses to “Any Given Sunday?”

  1. womanseyeview March 13, 2015 at 9:15 am #

    You’re bang on with this argument!

  2. 3boxesofbs March 13, 2015 at 12:17 pm #

    The problem is in the definition of terms.

    The data presented here are from the National Survey on Drug Use and Health (NSDUH) , which defines any mental illness (AMI) as:
    A mental, behavioral, or emotional disorder (excluding developmental and substance use disorders);
    Diagnosable currently or within the past year; and,
    Of sufficient duration to meet diagnostic criteria specified within the 4th edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV).
    AMI can range in impact from no or mild impairment to significantly disabling impairment, such as in individuals with serious mental illness (SMI), defined as individuals with a mental disorder with serious functional impairment which substantially interferes with or limits one or more major life activities.

    So an mental illness that has no or little impact on a person’s life should disqualify them from own/keeping firearms?

    affecting tens of millions of people each year, and that, overall, only about half of those affected receive treatment.

    By your own admission there are millions of people affected each year but the statistics on firearm related deaths and injuries clearly show that most people do not have a problem handling firearms. While any number of suicides is too many there less than 20,000 per year.
    So let’s do some math. 308 Million people — 23.3% under age of 18 gives us 236.8 million adults. Now the 19% figure includes all people but I’m going to apply it just to the adults (reducing it would make the number of adults NOT suffering from mental illness higher) — that means approximately 45,230,000 adults suffer from a mental illness during the year.

    Even if we include all homicides (most of those are drug and gang related) and all suicides — call it 32,000 a year that means only 0.0707% of adults with a mental illness commit murder or suicide each year. The truer number is closer to 0.0.397%

    Instead of focusing on the firearms; why not push for better mental health treatment?

    Bob S.

    • RAB March 13, 2015 at 1:55 pm #

      Treating mental illness happens OVER TIME. Restricting gun purchases can be done IMMEDIATELY. Push for BOTH.

      • 3boxesofbs March 13, 2015 at 2:45 pm #

        Restricting gun purchases for which people?

        Where do you draw the line in restricting a fundamental right?
        We currently have a system in place; if a person is involuntarily committed or adjudicated mentally ill, then and only then is their right denied.

        Are you wanting anyone with any mental issues to be denied their right to keep and bear arms?

        Bob S.

    • gpicone March 16, 2015 at 3:20 pm #

      “So an mental illness that has no or little impact on a person’s life should disqualify them from own/keeping firearms?” Who said anything about disqualifying someone from owning weapons? You folks are all the same: Misdirect the argument to try and distort the proposed solutions or safeguards because of your paranoia. (a mental disorder, by the way)
      “While any number of suicides is too many there less than 20,000 per year.” Only 20,000 suicides per year?????? So as a percentage of population that is acceptable to you and we should not endeavor to do any better?????????
      “Now the 19% figure includes all people”…No, if you read my post, 19% of adults suffer from mental illnesses.
      “0.0.397%” That’s math???????
      Sadly, people like you will never vote for more money being spent on health care but since you all own guns then filling out a little extra paperwork shouldn’t affect your desire to keep owning them, wanting them and your desire to someday shoot someone with them. So you will all go the extra mile and do the extra paperwork if you have to…and maybe that will help.
      And finally, telling people who have lost loved ones, in horrible tragedies that involve guns, that their losses are acceptable because there are so many other people still alive in the country (and then citing percentages as though a knowledge of mathematics reduces human suffering)… is PURE MADNESS and DISREGARD FOR HUMAN LIFE and PERSONAL HUMAN EMOTION! (Do you also regard the two police officers who were recently gunned down in Ferguson, as a natural and acceptable casualty of freedom, gun ownership and the 2nd Amendment? We still have a lot of police officers who are alive and who have not been shot so as a percentage those two injuries are, in your world view, almost non existent aren’t they?

  3. drshyamalavatsa March 13, 2015 at 2:30 pm #

    If DSM-5 criteria have been used, the 19% of people afflicted with ‘mental illness’ include conditions that don’t cause people to be impulsive, paranoid or violent enough to shoot anyone. For example, sleep-wake disorders, eating disorders, obsessive-compulsive disorder. However, though I do understand Americans’ worries about too many people owning guns, I can also see why some of them need guns for their own protection. Bit of a conundrum.

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