Of Heaven and Homophily

31 Mar

Does anyone practice religion in heaven, and if so, what for?

11 Responses to “Of Heaven and Homophily”

  1. huguesleandre March 31, 2014 at 1:42 am #

    Reblogged this on My mind,its products and consequences. and commented:
    Can you answer this question?

  2. Khushbo March 31, 2014 at 2:00 am #

    Intriguing question! Would love to hear different people’s answers!

  3. A Voice March 31, 2014 at 2:48 am #

    Three things need to be defined to answer such a question, (1) what it means to ‘practise’ a religion, (2) the whatness, as it were, of ‘heaven’, viz. is the conception of heaven a place or something more existential like a mode of being and (3) what is meant by ‘religion,’ is it merely practical in the empirical sense of the term or can beliefs be divorced from practises and therefore have religion exist on a more conceptual level divorced from things like ritual. Without addressing these questions, even if we disagree, we cannot proceed to meaningfully engage the question.

    • gpicone March 31, 2014 at 7:45 pm #

      I guess my point is: What’s the point? If you reach your final destination, why practice anything anymore? Where are you going next???

      • A Voice March 31, 2014 at 11:23 pm #

        I understand where you are coming from with your question. I pointed out the need for having those three definitions to really do the question the justice it deserves and to demonstrate to the folks that come upon this that the question, however we want to answer it, isn’t as simple as it may seem.

        If we construe ‘religion’ as necessarily having ritual components then it would make very little sense to actively practise it in ‘heaven’, with there being no real need for such reminders, sacrifice and what not. This, though, forces the question of just exactly what we mean when we speak of ‘heaven’, what it is and how it is. Ultimately, answering the question with any real completeness forces us to posit just what heaven may or may not be and that should make any intellectual with a shred of epistemic humility uncomfortable.

        While we’re not likely to answer the question, what we can do is make some contentions that are pleasant intellectual exercise.

        Thus, from my perspective, allowing for the possibility of heaven to exist as a place that is a rarefied, but not entirely dissimilar place to what we are familiar with here, we would practise what can me called a ‘lived religion’. This is something that is existential and largely free of ritual and artifice because, at that point, such is unnecessary and when we factor in that we got to heaven in the first place our actions have already demonstrated sufficient ‘existential goodness’. Here, then, no one is going to church or door-to-door, they are simply living in such a way that their beliefs are adequately demonstrated, a lived religion’.

        I’d like to think that, as per Rowan Williams, heaven wouldn’t be free of struggle but free of suffering. If we are to exist, then, in a not too dissimilar way we are likely to be able to experience the same things (e.g. playing football) and there are, consequently, things that we need to strive for to attain but will not suffer in our pursuit of. In this conception it’s important to remember that struggling/striving is different from suffering, the former indicating obstacles with the latter indicating needless obstacles with undue pain.

  4. onnovocks March 31, 2014 at 7:17 am #

    🙂

  5. mixedupmeme March 31, 2014 at 9:19 pm #

    “Everybody talkin’ ’bout heaven ain’t goin’ there
    Everybody talkin’ ’bout heaven ain’t goin’
    Everybody talkin’ ’bout heaven ain’t goin’ there
    Oh my Lord”

  6. banjo626 March 31, 2014 at 11:20 pm #

    What would people have in common in heaven? They’d be glad they aren’t in Hell I reckon. What many people consider religion has nothing to do with God,” just my opinion”. I don’t think practicing has anything to do with that. You either believe or not. I suppose all of us will find out the truth of it one day.

    Thanks for visiting my blog. Have a great day !

  7. Dan Hennessy April 1, 2014 at 4:36 pm #

    If I get there I’ll drop you a note and let you know. But don’t hold your breath .

  8. assumptionisfaith April 3, 2014 at 2:19 pm #

    If pure religion is defined as in James 1:27 – ” Pure and genuine religion in the sight of God the Father means caring for orphans and widows in their distress and refusing to let the world corrupt you.” Then there is no religion in Heaven. Is there something to do in heaven? All good things – and if good is eternal “all good things” past, present, future. (if there is a heaven.)

  9. artinstructor April 20, 2014 at 7:43 pm #

    lol – if you’re in heaven – well you have a lot of your questions answered. Hope it is the heaven you wanted. Heaven is a funny thing – we have no real accounts of it. Although I love the original stories of Jesus – always bring me to tears – the Jews aren’t the only ones with heaven stories. Don’t get me started about ‘only’ those saved by Jesus get to go to heaven – that belief must send you straight to hell.

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